1 00:00:04,789 --> 00:00:02,230 as long as there are those that remember 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:04,799 what was there will always be those that 3 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:08,400 are unable to accept what can be yep 4 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,599 we're all kinds of stubborn i'm thankful 5 00:00:15,669 --> 00:00:13,120 i will 6 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:15,679 shred this universe down to its last 7 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,840 adam never been much of a fan of the 8 00:00:21,109 --> 00:00:19,680 avenger movies 9 00:00:24,550 --> 00:00:21,119 probably because i've never been much of 10 00:00:25,589 --> 00:00:24,560 a fan of the apocalyptic end game final 11 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:25,599 battle 12 00:00:30,310 --> 00:00:27,680 but i have to tell you as these things 13 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:30,320 pile up more and more and especially as 14 00:00:34,549 --> 00:00:32,239 i talk to people who i really respect 15 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:34,559 like today's guest the outstanding 16 00:00:38,069 --> 00:00:36,559 alternative media journalist richard 17 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:38,079 sarat well 18 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:40,480 when people like richard start heading 19 00:00:45,910 --> 00:00:42,079 in that direction 20 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:45,920 i do take notice she said covet has 21 00:00:49,990 --> 00:00:47,920 opened a window 22 00:00:52,069 --> 00:00:50,000 for us and presents us with all of these 23 00:00:53,830 --> 00:00:52,079 opportunities you know to do the things 24 00:00:55,110 --> 00:00:53,840 that we should you know that we want to 25 00:00:58,150 --> 00:00:55,120 do in terms of 26 00:01:00,470 --> 00:00:58,160 this again this very radical progressive 27 00:01:02,470 --> 00:01:00,480 collectivist agenda 28 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:02,480 that doesn't get us all the way there we 29 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:04,879 get the radical progressive we get the 30 00:01:08,870 --> 00:01:06,400 collectivist 31 00:01:10,469 --> 00:01:08,880 there's something more i have a sense 32 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:10,479 that there's something more that there 33 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:12,720 is something evil 34 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:14,479 behind this yeah there has to be a 35 00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:16,080 spiritual element you're right you're 36 00:01:19,350 --> 00:01:17,040 right 37 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,360 i guess in the in the fog of war in the 38 00:01:22,950 --> 00:01:21,280 midst of battle when i'm you know 39 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:22,960 dealing with 40 00:01:27,350 --> 00:01:24,960 uh the efficacy of masks and the latest 41 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:27,360 study that comes out or the latest 42 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:30,079 peer-reviewed study on ivermectin or a 43 00:01:32,950 --> 00:01:32,000 court challenge on 44 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:32,960 uh 45 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:34,880 vaccine passports or a woman who's 46 00:01:40,630 --> 00:01:37,520 pregnant and is getting fired because 47 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:40,640 she refuses the vaccine um 48 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,600 these little kind of the ground war 49 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:45,600 what is behind this 50 00:01:50,789 --> 00:01:49,119 this thirst for control yeah i mean 51 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:50,799 if you get down to the bedrock 52 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,439 ultimately it is it's spiritual warfare 53 00:01:57,830 --> 00:01:55,200 we're dealing with here i wonder do you 54 00:01:59,030 --> 00:01:57,840 have any thoughts specifically about 55 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,040 whether 56 00:02:04,149 --> 00:02:01,920 there has this been this huge swing of 57 00:02:07,749 --> 00:02:04,159 the occult in the satanic in the do it 58 00:02:10,309 --> 00:02:07,759 thou wilt culture the luciferian culture 59 00:02:11,830 --> 00:02:10,319 is the timing of that 60 00:02:13,750 --> 00:02:11,840 for you 61 00:02:17,350 --> 00:02:13,760 in any way 62 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:17,360 connected related potentially 63 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:18,800 linked to 64 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:20,560 what we're seeing here or is that a 65 00:02:25,190 --> 00:02:21,520 stretch 66 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,200 i i think 67 00:02:28,470 --> 00:02:27,120 i think this is 68 00:02:31,350 --> 00:02:28,480 we're getting down to near maybe the 69 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:31,360 final chess moves 70 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:33,599 i don't know how far we are to the end 71 00:02:38,150 --> 00:02:35,680 of the game you know game over but 72 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:38,160 it feels to me like we're getting down 73 00:02:41,990 --> 00:02:40,239 to the final chess moves where 74 00:02:43,910 --> 00:02:42,000 these dark forces are having you know 75 00:02:45,990 --> 00:02:43,920 everything seems to be going their way 76 00:02:47,990 --> 00:02:46,000 stick around you'll hear that i do come 77 00:02:50,550 --> 00:02:48,000 in off a ledge at the end 78 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,560 here's my interview with richard sarat 79 00:02:54,710 --> 00:02:52,239 welcome to skeptica where we explore 80 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:54,720 controversial science and spirituality 81 00:02:58,710 --> 00:02:57,040 with leading researchers thinkers and 82 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:58,720 their critics i'm your host alex 83 00:03:03,190 --> 00:03:00,879 ciccaris and today 84 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:03,200 i'm very excited to welcome richard 85 00:03:06,949 --> 00:03:05,280 sarah to skeptico 86 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:06,959 richard is 87 00:03:12,390 --> 00:03:09,680 well he's absolutely one of the top 88 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:12,400 alternative media journalists that we 89 00:03:14,149 --> 00:03:13,280 have 90 00:03:16,229 --> 00:03:14,159 and 91 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:16,239 i he has really held that honor for 92 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:19,200 quite some time i don't want to 93 00:03:22,390 --> 00:03:20,720 kind of make him out to be we're putting 94 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:22,400 him out to pass or anything because he's 95 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:25,519 still doing absolutely terrific work you 96 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:27,519 might know him from his frequent guest 97 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,360 appearances on 98 00:03:34,309 --> 00:03:31,680 coast to coast where he's a guest host 99 00:03:37,670 --> 00:03:34,319 or like me you might be totally hooked 100 00:03:38,869 --> 00:03:37,680 to his excellent podcast conspiracy 101 00:03:42,229 --> 00:03:38,879 unlimited 102 00:03:45,509 --> 00:03:42,239 and yes i have pilfered more than one or 103 00:03:48,229 --> 00:03:45,519 two guests from richard's excellent 104 00:03:51,110 --> 00:03:48,239 lineup of interviews if you live in 105 00:03:54,070 --> 00:03:51,120 canada you might be tuning in to him on 106 00:03:55,750 --> 00:03:54,080 his syndicated radio show which he was 107 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:55,760 just telling me a minute ago that he 108 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:57,120 just wrapped up 109 00:03:59,910 --> 00:03:58,159 so 110 00:04:04,070 --> 00:03:59,920 i this this is going to be a real treat 111 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:04,080 for me and i just mentioned to richard 112 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:06,720 you know whenever i hear him i always 113 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:09,280 feel there's a lot more to the story 114 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:11,519 that he's holding back he's a journalist 115 00:04:15,750 --> 00:04:13,840 he lets his guests do the talking unlike 116 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,760 me sometimes but 117 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:18,160 i want to know what this guy thinks i 118 00:04:25,189 --> 00:04:21,680 want to know what he thinks is the state 119 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:25,199 of this alternative media 120 00:04:30,230 --> 00:04:27,680 explosion that we're in the middle of 121 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:30,240 but we're not quite sure to make what 122 00:04:35,350 --> 00:04:32,560 we're in the middle of richard thank you 123 00:04:36,870 --> 00:04:35,360 so much for joining me and uh welcome 124 00:04:39,110 --> 00:04:36,880 hey alex thank you for that wonderful 125 00:04:42,310 --> 00:04:39,120 introduction 126 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:42,320 well it's uh it's just the truth that 127 00:04:45,030 --> 00:04:43,680 what's that makes it easy when you're 128 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:45,040 just telling the truth 129 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:47,840 but i give a very brief sketch of your 130 00:04:52,070 --> 00:04:49,520 bio 131 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,080 what el what else should people know 132 00:04:56,629 --> 00:04:55,040 you've done uh so much you've done tv 133 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:56,639 shows you've done 134 00:05:02,469 --> 00:04:59,759 media appearances on tv multiple radio 135 00:05:03,909 --> 00:05:02,479 appearances fill in the details for 136 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:03,919 people of 137 00:05:08,070 --> 00:05:05,759 of your work 138 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:08,080 my latest project is a an afternoon 139 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:08,960 drive 140 00:05:13,909 --> 00:05:11,840 show on a radio station that serves the 141 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:13,919 greater toronto area it's called saga 142 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:15,759 960 143 00:05:19,909 --> 00:05:17,039 and it 144 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:19,919 it airs weekdays from four to six pm 145 00:05:25,350 --> 00:05:23,360 eastern and it's quite a departure from 146 00:05:27,430 --> 00:05:25,360 anything i've done really since i was 147 00:05:30,230 --> 00:05:27,440 producing talk radio 148 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:30,240 in the early to mid 90s 149 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:36,310 politics opinion 150 00:05:41,110 --> 00:05:38,400 newsmaker type show 151 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:41,120 very fast-paced and i offer my my 152 00:05:45,029 --> 00:05:42,720 opinions 153 00:05:47,189 --> 00:05:45,039 we we talk about 154 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:47,199 the culture war we talk about 155 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:50,240 covet obviously i mean the lockdowns the 156 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:53,199 vaccine passports vaccine mandates this 157 00:05:57,749 --> 00:05:55,120 is really 158 00:05:58,870 --> 00:05:57,759 the the issue of our lifetime 159 00:05:59,830 --> 00:05:58,880 so 160 00:06:01,430 --> 00:05:59,840 um 161 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:01,440 but i continue to do my sunday night 162 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:02,880 show the syndicated program the 163 00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:04,400 conspiracy show you mentioned and that 164 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:05,520 has 165 00:06:11,510 --> 00:06:08,639 about 40 affiliates across north america 166 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:11,520 my podcast conspiracy unlimited 167 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:14,560 um i'm uh i'm writing a newsletter 168 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:16,240 i publish a newsletter once a month 169 00:06:19,710 --> 00:06:17,840 called inner sanctum and people can 170 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:19,720 subscribe at 171 00:06:24,550 --> 00:06:21,600 strangeplanet.ca 172 00:06:26,390 --> 00:06:24,560 so that combined with two teenage boys 173 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:26,400 about to turn 15 174 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,120 uh keeps me hopping 175 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,360 yeah i bet it does you know one of the 176 00:06:37,110 --> 00:06:33,120 things i think it's interesting about 177 00:06:40,070 --> 00:06:37,120 your uh syndicated radio show saga 960 178 00:06:41,590 --> 00:06:40,080 right saga 960. oh that's the radio 179 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:41,600 station that one's not syndicated that's 180 00:06:45,749 --> 00:06:43,840 just in the greater toronto area my 181 00:06:48,230 --> 00:06:45,759 syndicated show is sunday nights and 182 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:48,240 that's the conspiracy show and that's on 183 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:50,400 his radio 184 00:06:53,990 --> 00:06:52,639 yeah great great and you know what's 185 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,000 kind of interesting to me i mean 186 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:56,800 conspiracy has gone mainstream 187 00:07:00,950 --> 00:06:59,120 and i think in so many ways the topics 188 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:00,960 that you're talking about you're saying 189 00:07:06,390 --> 00:07:03,520 it's a straight ahead show and yet i'm 190 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:06,400 sure you're bringing a lot of this 191 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:08,000 material that would normally be 192 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:10,800 considered conspiratorial 193 00:07:15,749 --> 00:07:13,599 not normally but 10 years ago certainly 194 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:15,759 20 years ago it would have been very 195 00:07:20,790 --> 00:07:18,240 very conspiratorial that's so true i 196 00:07:22,150 --> 00:07:20,800 mean for me personally uh and i've i 197 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:22,160 never 198 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:27,440 it really alternative media because i've 199 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:30,000 always been fortunate enough to do i 200 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:31,599 guess what you would call alternative 201 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:33,440 information within 202 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:35,599 a mainstream media setting i've always 203 00:07:39,830 --> 00:07:38,080 worked at major market 204 00:07:42,309 --> 00:07:39,840 radio stations delivering this kind of 205 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:42,319 content the conspiracy show 206 00:07:46,790 --> 00:07:44,960 errors on a 50 000 watt am station it 207 00:07:48,950 --> 00:07:46,800 has the largest broadcast footprint of 208 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:48,960 any station in north america that the 209 00:07:52,950 --> 00:07:51,360 station is primarily music 210 00:07:56,309 --> 00:07:52,960 oriented 211 00:07:59,589 --> 00:07:56,319 um however i have a you know kind of a 212 00:08:01,029 --> 00:07:59,599 an island of talk on on sunday nights 213 00:08:02,469 --> 00:08:01,039 and 214 00:08:05,189 --> 00:08:02,479 the um 215 00:08:07,189 --> 00:08:05,199 the show i'm doing now on saga 960 is 216 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,199 for the most part you know it's it's a 217 00:08:10,710 --> 00:08:09,759 much it's a much smaller station but it 218 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,720 is 219 00:08:13,909 --> 00:08:12,800 considered mainstream i suppose i 220 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:13,919 suppose 221 00:08:16,950 --> 00:08:15,919 uh but what i'm bringing into it i 222 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:16,960 suppose yeah there's a bit of a 223 00:08:21,309 --> 00:08:19,199 convergence between 224 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:21,319 what was considered alternative or 225 00:08:25,270 --> 00:08:23,919 conspiracy and that is 226 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,280 i won't bore you with how that has 227 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:27,680 become such a loaded term 228 00:08:31,029 --> 00:08:29,120 um 229 00:08:32,870 --> 00:08:31,039 that yeah that's that's what's happening 230 00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:32,880 right now we are seeing a convergence 231 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:35,519 things i was talking about 20 years ago 232 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,200 and and i'm not i don't consider myself 233 00:08:42,389 --> 00:08:39,440 to be a conspiracy theorist it's always 234 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:42,399 been you know a case-by-case basis 235 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:44,080 let's you know let's follow the rules of 236 00:08:48,470 --> 00:08:45,600 evidence 237 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,480 some of these things are are you know 238 00:08:52,150 --> 00:08:50,640 non-falsifiable 239 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:52,160 um 240 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:53,279 and so 241 00:08:57,430 --> 00:08:55,040 ultimately you know there's no 242 00:08:59,030 --> 00:08:57,440 resolution other things i think 243 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:59,040 based on the evidence 244 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,800 warrant further examination 245 00:09:03,509 --> 00:09:02,399 investigation 246 00:09:05,030 --> 00:09:03,519 but i never 247 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:05,040 i never you know 248 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:06,959 bought in holist bolus into the idea of 249 00:09:11,269 --> 00:09:08,880 the illuminati or some 250 00:09:13,509 --> 00:09:11,279 secret society that is trying to rule 251 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,519 the world like the freemasons i mean for 252 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:14,959 crying out loud these people can't even 253 00:09:18,949 --> 00:09:17,120 organize a parade 254 00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:18,959 the freeman the masons anymore you know 255 00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:19,760 they're 256 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:21,360 i never bought into the idea that 257 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:24,160 they're trying to rule the planet 258 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:25,360 um 259 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:27,760 so i was always conflicted by much of it 260 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:29,519 but 261 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:30,959 my my 262 00:09:37,269 --> 00:09:34,839 my role was to pro to provide a 263 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:37,279 respectful platform for people to come 264 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:38,399 on 265 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:41,040 and and talk about you know 266 00:09:44,710 --> 00:09:43,040 their research 267 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,720 see i think you go i think you go a lot 268 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:46,560 deeper than that i mean that almost 269 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:47,440 seems 270 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:49,600 my take of it let me throw out another 271 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:52,160 term that maybe will turn us pivot us in 272 00:09:55,590 --> 00:09:54,240 a different direction okay conspire 273 00:09:57,030 --> 00:09:55,600 attainment 274 00:10:00,230 --> 00:09:57,040 there's both 275 00:10:02,389 --> 00:10:00,240 you know a positive aspect to that and 276 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:02,399 a negative aspect to that i don't know 277 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:05,600 what to make of it you know joe rogan 278 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:06,640 is 279 00:10:12,150 --> 00:10:08,560 probably one of the most influential 280 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:12,160 media people of our day i mean more 281 00:10:18,710 --> 00:10:15,519 viewers slash listeners than anyone on 282 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,720 cnn or msnbc or any of those things 283 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:20,880 highly influential 284 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:23,680 has this conspiratorial edge but at the 285 00:10:29,069 --> 00:10:26,160 same time when he gets on there with 286 00:10:32,470 --> 00:10:29,079 alex jones and eddie bravo it's very 287 00:10:35,110 --> 00:10:32,480 conspiretainment it's hahaha flat earth 288 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:35,120 it's you know kind of 289 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:37,839 covering all these things in a way 290 00:10:42,230 --> 00:10:40,240 that's tremendous to package it 291 00:10:44,630 --> 00:10:42,240 towards entertainment it has to go that 292 00:10:47,829 --> 00:10:44,640 way as it goes mainstream 293 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:47,839 but you you've always come at it from my 294 00:10:52,630 --> 00:10:50,160 from my perspective from a different 295 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:52,640 angle you've come at it with who can i 296 00:10:57,190 --> 00:10:53,600 get 297 00:10:58,949 --> 00:10:57,200 on the show who has written a solid book 298 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:58,959 or has a solid 299 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:02,000 background bit of research and 300 00:11:08,710 --> 00:11:05,440 kind of tackling it straight ahead so 301 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:08,720 do you think that this conspirator 302 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:12,240 flavor that we're adding to it might be 303 00:11:18,069 --> 00:11:15,360 one of those things that's designed to 304 00:11:20,949 --> 00:11:18,079 divide this community because certainly 305 00:11:23,350 --> 00:11:20,959 that's my view of like flat earth for 306 00:11:25,670 --> 00:11:23,360 example and you can't do this stuff and 307 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:25,680 not run into flat earthers and they come 308 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:27,120 across as being 309 00:11:30,630 --> 00:11:28,480 super genuine 310 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:30,640 like hey you haven't done the research 311 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:32,480 it's real kind of thing 312 00:11:37,750 --> 00:11:35,200 i i i just can't help i just tense up 313 00:11:40,069 --> 00:11:37,760 and i go do you know how this looks to 314 00:11:42,550 --> 00:11:40,079 anyone quote unquote from the outside 315 00:11:43,829 --> 00:11:42,560 any of the normies if you will they've 316 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,839 immediately 317 00:11:46,870 --> 00:11:45,680 cut our group 318 00:11:48,710 --> 00:11:46,880 in half 319 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:48,720 and they've said or at least put up a 320 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:51,120 dividing line and say there are actually 321 00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:52,959 wacky people out there who believe in 322 00:11:57,350 --> 00:11:55,200 flat earth so we can take that whole 323 00:11:59,110 --> 00:11:57,360 group and just 324 00:12:00,150 --> 00:11:59,120 that's one way we can divide them right 325 00:12:01,990 --> 00:12:00,160 there 326 00:12:04,389 --> 00:12:02,000 what do you think about any of that 327 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:04,399 there's some truth to that for sure 328 00:12:09,990 --> 00:12:08,000 um but those that are trying to 329 00:12:12,310 --> 00:12:10,000 you know label somebody or discredit 330 00:12:14,550 --> 00:12:12,320 somebody by using that term if it's not 331 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:14,560 flat earth they'll find something else 332 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,160 whether it's bigfoot 333 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:18,399 or whether it's ufos 334 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:19,680 um 335 00:12:22,829 --> 00:12:21,200 or 336 00:12:25,430 --> 00:12:22,839 you know the 337 00:12:27,030 --> 00:12:25,440 illuminati it doesn't you know 338 00:12:29,910 --> 00:12:27,040 pick your poison 339 00:12:32,389 --> 00:12:29,920 but you're right there is a there is uh 340 00:12:34,310 --> 00:12:32,399 a certain element to that and and have i 341 00:12:36,389 --> 00:12:34,320 fallen afraid of that maybe i have maybe 342 00:12:38,629 --> 00:12:36,399 i have maybe i have 343 00:12:40,710 --> 00:12:38,639 created some of that division and maybe 344 00:12:43,190 --> 00:12:40,720 that is you know part 345 00:12:44,230 --> 00:12:43,200 conspiracy entertainment 346 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:44,240 um 347 00:12:48,310 --> 00:12:46,480 well what do you think if you have how 348 00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:48,320 have you true confession where do you 349 00:12:51,269 --> 00:12:49,440 think you've gone with that well i've 350 00:12:54,710 --> 00:12:51,279 had flat ears on i've had them on coast 351 00:12:57,590 --> 00:12:54,720 to coast i've had them on my radio show 352 00:12:59,509 --> 00:12:57,600 uh my syndicated radio show 353 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:59,519 i tried to arrange you know for debates 354 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:00,880 but you can't 355 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:02,720 you can't do that right you're not going 356 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,760 to do that you're going you're not going 357 00:13:07,190 --> 00:13:04,959 to accomplish that you're not going to 358 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:07,200 get someone to come on and debate a flat 359 00:13:10,949 --> 00:13:09,519 earther it's i mean i've tried i'm not 360 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:10,959 saying it's impossible that there isn't 361 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:12,959 someone out there willing to do that and 362 00:13:16,310 --> 00:13:14,880 in many instances 363 00:13:17,750 --> 00:13:16,320 you know the the people that call into 364 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:17,760 the program 365 00:13:22,710 --> 00:13:20,320 sort of serve that purpose and and i try 366 00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:22,720 to provide some 367 00:13:27,190 --> 00:13:24,639 some uh some pushback 368 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:27,200 uh see i i don't i i want to be clear i 369 00:13:33,350 --> 00:13:30,079 i don't think we should not talk to 370 00:13:35,910 --> 00:13:33,360 anyone or or you know cancel culture 371 00:13:39,269 --> 00:13:35,920 for bowdoin to talk about anything 372 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:39,279 anything i think that's what this 373 00:13:45,430 --> 00:13:42,560 that is at the core value of this 374 00:13:49,430 --> 00:13:45,440 alternative media kind of 375 00:13:51,189 --> 00:13:49,440 ethos you know but i guess where i think 376 00:13:54,230 --> 00:13:51,199 you know we we have to kind of draw the 377 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,240 line a little bit is just in terms of uh 378 00:14:00,870 --> 00:13:57,120 having some standard by which we would 379 00:14:02,949 --> 00:14:00,880 you know understand or cast doubt or 380 00:14:05,670 --> 00:14:02,959 you know kind of resolve these things 381 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:05,680 and in a way that that doesn't kind of 382 00:14:09,910 --> 00:14:08,000 it's the relativism thing you know just 383 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:09,920 because we're going to talk about flat 384 00:14:15,350 --> 00:14:13,120 earth does it mean it's on the same 385 00:14:16,470 --> 00:14:15,360 level as another guy's going to come out 386 00:14:18,790 --> 00:14:16,480 and talk about 387 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:18,800 a peer-reviewed paper that was published 388 00:14:24,069 --> 00:14:22,240 in 2015 that shows that fauci was 389 00:14:26,150 --> 00:14:24,079 bio engineer part of the team that was 390 00:14:28,150 --> 00:14:26,160 bioengineering you know go with and the 391 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:28,160 guy says and here's the research here's 392 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:29,519 where you can get it 393 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:30,480 versus 394 00:14:35,910 --> 00:14:33,279 somebody who's just kind of has a 395 00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:35,920 idea about a theory of everything kind 396 00:14:40,389 --> 00:14:38,560 of level idea 397 00:14:42,150 --> 00:14:40,399 well i i think you're spot on there i 398 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:42,160 mean i think 399 00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:44,399 not i'm not apologizing for my my 400 00:14:48,949 --> 00:14:46,800 program but i think you know 401 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:48,959 over the period of 20 years there has 402 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:51,839 been an evolution and and 403 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:53,760 when i first got into 404 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,320 this whole field and i i didn't really 405 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,399 think much about ufos i didn't i'd never 406 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:01,440 seen a ufo i didn't think about bigfoot 407 00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:04,959 uh i was i was trying to 408 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:08,320 build an audience i was trying to find 409 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,880 a niche that wasn't being serviced in 410 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,639 the market 411 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,560 and 412 00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:16,240 i kind of fell into it it kind of 413 00:15:21,430 --> 00:15:18,399 started drips and drabs on my show and 414 00:15:24,629 --> 00:15:21,440 then it eventually took over 415 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:24,639 and so i think it's evolved since then 416 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:28,720 but um i think what i'm doing now 417 00:15:33,269 --> 00:15:31,680 is um on saga 960 418 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:33,279 i think is closer to what you're talking 419 00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,920 about where i'm where i'm bringing on 420 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,759 you know people who who talk about 421 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:39,519 peer-reviewed studies when we're talking 422 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:41,040 about coven and 423 00:15:49,189 --> 00:15:46,870 early treatments like 424 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:49,199 hydroxy or ivermectin these types of 425 00:15:53,829 --> 00:15:51,839 things i speak with i spoke with the the 426 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:53,839 the inventor of the mrna vaccine dr 427 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:55,120 robert malone 428 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:57,040 dr peter mccullough all of these people 429 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:59,040 i mean that's that's really what i'm i'm 430 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:01,199 interested in right now and i am 431 00:16:05,910 --> 00:16:04,160 somewhat conflicted by 432 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:05,920 what i'm doing on sunday nights in the 433 00:16:09,189 --> 00:16:07,440 midst of all of the stuff that's going 434 00:16:11,269 --> 00:16:09,199 on like do i really want to spend two 435 00:16:13,829 --> 00:16:11,279 hours talking about or an hour talking 436 00:16:16,389 --> 00:16:13,839 about a bigfoot or 437 00:16:18,790 --> 00:16:16,399 or ufos not but that's not interesting 438 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,800 and that people want to hear that but 439 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:19,920 um 440 00:16:23,350 --> 00:16:22,560 please please don't stop please don't 441 00:16:25,189 --> 00:16:23,360 stop 442 00:16:27,189 --> 00:16:25,199 uh that you know we didn't we do need a 443 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:27,199 diversion it's you know i don't think 444 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:29,199 it's a diversion though richard i mean 445 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:33,040 like your work in the e.t ufo 446 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,399 uh kind of abduction thing and i it's 447 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,720 hard to know exactly where you come down 448 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:40,959 on that but like 449 00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:43,440 one thing i really appreciated like one 450 00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:45,120 of your shows recently on conspiracy 451 00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:46,880 unlimited it's a few episodes back but 452 00:16:50,389 --> 00:16:48,560 it was like uh 453 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,399 the guys who wrote the book on the sons 454 00:16:55,189 --> 00:16:52,800 and daughters of roswell 455 00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:55,199 and uh i thought it was a great reminder 456 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:56,560 where these researchers you know we 457 00:16:59,910 --> 00:16:58,320 think roswell you know 458 00:17:01,590 --> 00:16:59,920 they're all dead well 459 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:01,600 most of them are dead but they're sons 460 00:17:06,390 --> 00:17:05,199 and daughters who can tell you directly 461 00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:06,400 how 462 00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,439 they were threatened by threat of death 463 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:11,520 if they spoke of this and we've heard 464 00:17:16,230 --> 00:17:14,640 those accounts before but i think 465 00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:16,240 like here's what i think you bring into 466 00:17:20,710 --> 00:17:18,400 focus when you bring in the et thing 467 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:20,720 because you have covered it so long i 468 00:17:24,549 --> 00:17:23,280 see so many people that are falling for 469 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:24,559 the 470 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,120 atip louis and auto 471 00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:29,200 not you know the dot it was the 472 00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:32,320 documents weren't classified this from 473 00:17:38,710 --> 00:17:37,120 this from a cia spy who's trained to lie 474 00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,720 you know the whole thing seems 475 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:40,400 fabricated i've been interviewed leslie 476 00:17:44,789 --> 00:17:43,039 kane and ralph blumenthal 477 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:44,799 really respect and like both of them but 478 00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,160 they're the ones who originally broke 479 00:17:50,390 --> 00:17:48,480 the story in the new york times 480 00:17:51,350 --> 00:17:50,400 and it's like how are you guys falling 481 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:51,360 for this 482 00:17:55,990 --> 00:17:53,760 are you forgetting how they've lied to 483 00:17:58,390 --> 00:17:56,000 us for 60 years and now they're trying 484 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,400 to draw our attention to 485 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:01,280 oh no it's it's all right now on these 486 00:18:04,630 --> 00:18:03,280 videos we just discovered from a few 487 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,640 years ago 488 00:18:10,150 --> 00:18:07,120 i think we need a steady hand on the 489 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:10,160 wheel there to remind us a little bit of 490 00:18:14,549 --> 00:18:12,640 this history and i feel like when you 491 00:18:18,230 --> 00:18:14,559 cover this topic you 492 00:18:20,150 --> 00:18:18,240 you bring that just naturally to it 493 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:20,160 uh thank you i appreciate that i mean 494 00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:21,520 i'm not saying it's not important but 495 00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:22,720 right now 496 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:24,160 especially what's happening here in 497 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:28,400 ontario with uh vaccine passports and 498 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:30,799 and um we have a charter of rights and 499 00:18:34,870 --> 00:18:33,120 freedoms that as robin williams used to 500 00:18:36,230 --> 00:18:34,880 quit regarding uh they had a line about 501 00:18:38,950 --> 00:18:36,240 the magna carta being written on an 502 00:18:39,990 --> 00:18:38,960 etch-a-sketch i mean we are 503 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:40,000 this is 504 00:18:43,750 --> 00:18:42,240 it is so all-consuming now i mean this 505 00:18:45,990 --> 00:18:43,760 stuff literally keeps me up at night as 506 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:46,000 i said i have 14 year old boys i'm 507 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:47,760 i mean 508 00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:50,000 we are on a knife's edge up here and so 509 00:18:54,230 --> 00:18:51,600 it is just 510 00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:54,240 it it takes all of my focus and all of 511 00:18:59,190 --> 00:18:56,960 my energy uh i mean i would i would love 512 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:59,200 to go back to 513 00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:00,880 the days when i could 514 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:03,120 i could talk about 515 00:19:06,789 --> 00:19:04,720 i call it the stuff where nobody gets 516 00:19:08,710 --> 00:19:06,799 hurt 517 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:08,720 and 518 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,960 now i know with with the whole ufo et 519 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:12,480 issue there i mean there are layers 520 00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:14,559 there and and uh when you talk about 521 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:16,000 roswell and people being threatened 522 00:19:20,310 --> 00:19:17,440 obviously there is a lot of it but 523 00:19:21,190 --> 00:19:20,320 there's a lot at stake here but 524 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:21,200 um 525 00:19:25,029 --> 00:19:22,799 what would what i'm talking about now on 526 00:19:26,150 --> 00:19:25,039 science but how is there not more at 527 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:26,160 stake 528 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:27,840 with e.t 529 00:19:30,150 --> 00:19:29,120 than with 530 00:19:33,190 --> 00:19:30,160 kovid 531 00:19:36,470 --> 00:19:33,200 e.t trumps that uh 10 times over how is 532 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,480 it more important than the spirituality 533 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:38,480 you know transhumanism 534 00:19:42,630 --> 00:19:39,760 uh 535 00:19:44,950 --> 00:19:42,640 satanistic occult thing do what thou 536 00:19:47,350 --> 00:19:44,960 wilt culture that you talk about all the 537 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,360 time if anything they're complete what i 538 00:19:52,230 --> 00:19:49,679 want to know is to what extent are they 539 00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,240 intertwined because if i try and 540 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:54,799 understand kovid separately from any of 541 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,360 that stuff i'm lost i'm lost because i 542 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:59,200 got one guy saying this one guy's saying 543 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,400 that 544 00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:02,240 if i don't try and understand it inside 545 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:05,679 of that context i i can't get there 546 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:08,000 right well um maybe i'm 547 00:20:12,070 --> 00:20:10,480 more of a linear thinker i right now 548 00:20:13,750 --> 00:20:12,080 what i'm feeling or what i'm what i'm 549 00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,760 facing or what we're facing here in 550 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:15,280 ontario 551 00:20:19,990 --> 00:20:18,080 uh the immediate threat is okay so 552 00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:20,000 they're about to introduce or they did 553 00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:23,440 on the 22nd a vaccine passport 554 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:25,360 which means okay for now you just can't 555 00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,600 get into a restaurant and a gym and a 556 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:29,600 sporting event okay big deal we can 557 00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:30,880 manage we don't need to go to 558 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:32,080 restaurants 559 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:35,440 uh but the next step is introducing 560 00:20:40,230 --> 00:20:38,240 you know a digital form of that passport 561 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,240 uh what can they do on the back end to 562 00:20:44,789 --> 00:20:42,080 that to connect to 563 00:20:48,149 --> 00:20:44,799 paypal to connect to your banking 564 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:48,159 information and i i i i see where this 565 00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:49,360 is going 566 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,799 and it's happening at like warp speed 567 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,799 so i have to contend with that you know 568 00:20:57,750 --> 00:20:56,559 right now and you know that's an 569 00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:57,760 interesting point how does this 570 00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,039 intersect with 571 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:01,679 the whole ufo et issue 572 00:21:06,149 --> 00:21:03,760 no in particular how does it intersect 573 00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:06,159 with the evil issue i mean 574 00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,159 you know it's funny i just had a 575 00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:10,559 just did a couple of interviews on 576 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,559 with a guy from google who's very high 577 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:15,200 up in google and is 578 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:18,320 well entrenched in the ai thing and we 579 00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,880 talked about you know the demonetization 580 00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,120 and the control reluctantly he kind of 581 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:25,840 went there very nice of him to kind of 582 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:27,280 address these things that you never hear 583 00:21:32,230 --> 00:21:29,760 about and then i talked to a guy who's a 584 00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:32,240 phd in quantum computing we talked about 585 00:21:37,350 --> 00:21:34,559 where is this ai stuff going where is 586 00:21:39,029 --> 00:21:37,360 the transhumanism going and to me the 587 00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:39,039 point of all that stuff is we don't 588 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:42,480 really care what google is doing what we 589 00:21:45,350 --> 00:21:43,840 care about is 590 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,360 are they evil 591 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:47,280 is what they're about is what's behind 592 00:21:50,710 --> 00:21:48,960 that 593 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,720 essentially 594 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:52,000 satanic 595 00:21:59,430 --> 00:21:57,600 because if it's just some guy who's just 596 00:22:01,669 --> 00:21:59,440 trying to do 597 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,679 the right thing that that's we can 598 00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:03,280 process that one way 599 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,240 but if it is like we suspect 600 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:07,919 truly truly 601 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:09,840 driven by some 602 00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,280 evil forces that are beyond this realm 603 00:22:17,190 --> 00:22:15,200 which i think the evidence is is quite 604 00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,200 substantial and i comment it differently 605 00:22:20,789 --> 00:22:19,120 than you do that evidence but i think 606 00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,799 the evidence for the extended 607 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:23,039 consciousness realm playing a role in 608 00:22:27,430 --> 00:22:25,760 our world here is just overwhelming so 609 00:22:30,789 --> 00:22:27,440 that's what i want to know 610 00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,799 well i i've always you know for for me 611 00:22:34,870 --> 00:22:32,640 personally and i don't always talk about 612 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:34,880 it on the air but people i have enough 613 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:36,320 that people i think understand i've 614 00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:38,880 always put the ufo et issue through my 615 00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,799 my faith filter from a biblical 616 00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:41,919 perspective 617 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:44,400 and i and i do see it as 618 00:22:49,430 --> 00:22:47,200 more of a an interdimensional 619 00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,440 uh angelic realm 620 00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:50,960 you know type of intervention that we're 621 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:52,840 seeing here 622 00:22:56,789 --> 00:22:55,440 um and i think yeah i think the same 623 00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,799 applies to 624 00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,640 the bigger picture what we're we're 625 00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,200 we're seeing with with covid 626 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:03,600 and uh you know this attempt to control 627 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:05,840 and and coerce 628 00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:09,039 and mask and even to mask seems 629 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:11,039 because the mask science to me in some 630 00:23:16,230 --> 00:23:14,080 way is kind of a an interesting window 631 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:16,240 into this because at this point we have 632 00:23:19,830 --> 00:23:18,240 firmly established scientifically that 633 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:19,840 masks just don't make any difference 634 00:23:22,710 --> 00:23:22,000 they work in the lab but over and over 635 00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:22,720 again 636 00:23:26,070 --> 00:23:24,240 i actually did studies on this like 100 637 00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:26,080 years ago and came up with the same you 638 00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,200 know 639 00:23:30,549 --> 00:23:28,640 isn't it intriguing though that they 640 00:23:32,630 --> 00:23:30,559 want everyone to wear a mask i just 641 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,640 think that's i'm not into the i'm not 642 00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:34,880 super into the symbology stuff because i 643 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:38,159 think it it can get wacky but 644 00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,640 it does seem occulted in so many ways 645 00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:42,080 and i know you've covered this many 646 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:42,880 times 647 00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:44,240 well 648 00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,240 in a more basic level here it's and it's 649 00:23:50,630 --> 00:23:47,679 it's let's 650 00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,640 let's see if how far we can get them to 651 00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,320 comply so we'll get them to wear one 652 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:54,159 mask and then we can get them to wear 653 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,679 two masks and then maybe we can get them 654 00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:57,360 to wear three masks and then let's see 655 00:24:00,149 --> 00:23:58,640 if we can get their two-year-olds to 656 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,159 wear masks 657 00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,520 outside while they're alone on a swing 658 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:05,679 and then let's see how they react 659 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,760 uh you know when we we tell them that 660 00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:09,600 they have to have a vaccine otherwise 661 00:24:14,710 --> 00:24:12,480 they'll lose their job and yeah it's 662 00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,720 the in terms of the occult 663 00:24:17,990 --> 00:24:16,240 um 664 00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,000 i i don't remember doing anything on 665 00:24:23,190 --> 00:24:19,919 that specifically i may have i'm sure 666 00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:23,200 there is um you know 667 00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:26,159 an occult connection to that i mean what 668 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,679 what do you think that connection is in 669 00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:30,080 terms of masks specifically 670 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:31,360 you can take it at a lot of different 671 00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:33,120 levels where people have 672 00:24:39,750 --> 00:24:36,559 but from a very uh surface level it's 673 00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:39,760 it's a hiding it's it's a hiding of who 674 00:24:44,549 --> 00:24:43,200 i am it's a deception and i think that 675 00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:44,559 at its core 676 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,840 that is the satanic doeth thou wilt 677 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,240 ethos you know and again i'm not a 678 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:52,720 christian so i don't process it exactly 679 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:54,960 the same way that you do but at the end 680 00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:56,880 of the day it's probably pretty close i 681 00:25:01,909 --> 00:24:59,200 mean there is a there seems to be this 682 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:01,919 dark force dark energy that keeps 683 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,320 hitting us with the same themes over and 684 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:06,240 over again and some of those themes are 685 00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:09,919 just right there our deception control 686 00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,960 uh hidden all those things that 687 00:25:15,750 --> 00:25:14,080 and people who are more into the 688 00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,760 symbology which i don't like to go there 689 00:25:18,630 --> 00:25:17,440 necessarily because it gets pretty wacky 690 00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:18,640 pretty soon 691 00:25:22,789 --> 00:25:20,799 mask fits perfectly with that in so many 692 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,799 ways 693 00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,720 sure sure uh 694 00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,200 yeah there is definitely 695 00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:29,039 uh when you're talking about 696 00:25:33,669 --> 00:25:30,720 something hidden there is just a lack of 697 00:25:36,549 --> 00:25:33,679 transparency and and 698 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:36,559 i guess the the root of a cult is cult 699 00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:38,240 i see 700 00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:39,279 um 701 00:25:42,549 --> 00:25:40,880 this denial 702 00:25:44,470 --> 00:25:42,559 we have something up here in ontario 703 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,480 called the ontario science table it's 704 00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:46,640 supposed to be a volunteer group of 705 00:25:48,950 --> 00:25:48,000 physicians and 706 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:48,960 health 707 00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,120 are really 708 00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,200 this quasi unelected government that we 709 00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:56,880 have in ontario 710 00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,600 uh you know they they play the tune and 711 00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,279 the premier dances i mean he actually 712 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:02,720 said out loud 713 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:04,559 uh it would be political suicide to go 714 00:26:07,350 --> 00:26:05,840 against them i mean that was supposed to 715 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,360 be an inside thought but he actually 716 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:08,720 said it out loud 717 00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:10,960 if i were to go against these unelected 718 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,159 people 719 00:26:16,470 --> 00:26:14,480 uh that have no accountability we don't 720 00:26:17,669 --> 00:26:16,480 even know their names most of us 721 00:26:19,350 --> 00:26:17,679 you know 722 00:26:21,350 --> 00:26:19,360 his career his political career would be 723 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,360 over it's quite an admission quite a 724 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:23,520 stark thing to say out loud 725 00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:24,640 um 726 00:26:29,590 --> 00:26:27,600 but this there is this cultish 727 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:29,600 behavior i mean when you confront 728 00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:30,720 someone 729 00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,760 with you mentioned masks you know 730 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:35,279 14 731 00:26:38,149 --> 00:26:36,240 um 732 00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:38,159 randomized 733 00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:39,200 um 734 00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:42,480 controlled trials all show you know no 735 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,600 efficacy 736 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,520 and what do they hold up in response uh 737 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:47,840 two hairdressers in utah 738 00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:50,240 that's their that's their operational uh 739 00:26:53,750 --> 00:26:51,760 their cohort study right that's the one 740 00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,760 that they point to suddenly that's the 741 00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,320 gold standard two two hairdressers in 742 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:59,200 utah that had 72 customers and uh you 743 00:27:02,390 --> 00:27:01,120 know so just pay attention to that one 744 00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:02,400 and not these 745 00:27:05,590 --> 00:27:03,360 or 746 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,600 uh there was actually on on the news 747 00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,559 today 748 00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:08,480 uh former the public health commissioner 749 00:27:11,669 --> 00:27:10,240 for baltimore she now works in the 750 00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,679 emergency room 751 00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:13,520 a physician at george washington 752 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,679 university hospital and she again she 753 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,440 said out loud 754 00:27:21,830 --> 00:27:20,480 uh that i'm because she's vaccinated she 755 00:27:23,510 --> 00:27:21,840 has to be careful around her 756 00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,520 unvaccinated child 757 00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,039 you know admitting that this is where 758 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:27,039 the spread is coming from and you see 759 00:27:31,110 --> 00:27:28,880 all of these cracks now 760 00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,120 uh whether it's israel you know what are 761 00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,520 they up to their fourth jab uh in 762 00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,960 another six months if you don't have 763 00:27:39,750 --> 00:27:37,039 your fifth jab you know your green pass 764 00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,760 will expire it's like this vaccine caste 765 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:42,080 system that i predicted would happen 766 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,360 but when you 767 00:27:47,350 --> 00:27:45,279 when you talk about you know the 768 00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:47,360 vaccinated now or spreading it to the 769 00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,159 unvaccinated and there's no there's no 770 00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,480 scientific epidemiological reason to 771 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:53,919 segregate the vaccinated from the 772 00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,440 unvaccinated with these vaccine 773 00:27:58,950 --> 00:27:56,640 passports 774 00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,960 and you you show them the data and so 775 00:28:02,149 --> 00:28:00,000 forth 776 00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,159 you just get a glazed look and you get 777 00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:04,880 this avatar response you know like 778 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,000 you're playing 779 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:08,080 in a computer game you must get 780 00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,399 vaccinated yep but i just explained i 781 00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,080 just showed you the data it doesn't 782 00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:14,000 matter it's like you're playing against 783 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,200 a brick wall 784 00:28:18,950 --> 00:28:17,840 to me that's that's a cult 785 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,960 and you 786 00:28:22,870 --> 00:28:20,880 you know we can't deprogram all of these 787 00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:22,880 people there's not time i mean 788 00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,960 uh it almost leads one to despair at 789 00:28:28,549 --> 00:28:26,480 this point where 790 00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:28,559 uh it's like this 791 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,120 zombie apocalypse 792 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:34,080 you know i think things down here in the 793 00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:37,200 states are a little bit different and i 794 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,000 think 795 00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:39,600 although you know this is a worldwide 796 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,240 thing which is also curious to me 797 00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:44,799 i mean the extent to which 798 00:28:49,830 --> 00:28:47,679 the message was 799 00:28:51,190 --> 00:28:49,840 kind of simultaneously spread and 800 00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,200 implemented 801 00:28:55,110 --> 00:28:53,120 speaks to you know 802 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:55,120 a power and a force behind this thing 803 00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,880 that that just we we couldn't have 804 00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,880 anticipated but there's a there's a lot 805 00:29:02,070 --> 00:29:00,960 of push back down here and some of the 806 00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,080 science 807 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,240 is making its way through 808 00:29:07,590 --> 00:29:06,480 you seem to be very in tune with the 809 00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,600 science 810 00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:09,520 do you think 811 00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,399 science has a chance here 812 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:15,360 uh yeah i i keep seeing as i say cracks 813 00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:17,679 in the dam and i don't know 814 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:19,120 how many cracks it's going to take for 815 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,200 the dam to burst it should have burst a 816 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:24,080 long time ago 817 00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:24,960 now 818 00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:30,880 tennessee and and texas in particular 819 00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:32,799 that are that are you know resisting 820 00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:34,640 pushing back i think there's something 821 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:37,360 like 24 states now that are 822 00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:39,360 uh opposed to these 823 00:29:42,870 --> 00:29:41,120 vaccine mandates and are going to sue 824 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:42,880 the federal government 825 00:29:46,149 --> 00:29:44,320 um i 826 00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,159 i mean i i look at what's happening in 827 00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:47,760 romania 828 00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,200 uh we had 70 000 people gathering 829 00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:52,799 in the in the city square and they had 830 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:55,600 to shut down all of their vaccine 831 00:30:00,870 --> 00:29:58,559 centers because 70 percent of the people 832 00:30:02,070 --> 00:30:00,880 saying we're not taking it i wish we had 833 00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:02,080 that 834 00:30:08,149 --> 00:30:05,679 canada um 835 00:30:11,190 --> 00:30:08,159 we do not sadly and that also can lead 836 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:11,200 to despair i mean i'm constantly 837 00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:13,120 that's that's the real monster under the 838 00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:14,399 bed right now 839 00:30:17,669 --> 00:30:15,760 alex it's not 840 00:30:20,230 --> 00:30:17,679 a bigfoot or 841 00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:20,240 uh a gray alien for me 842 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,840 um it's 843 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:23,039 despair 844 00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,960 it's it's it and it's also i think what 845 00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:26,320 you're saying is very interesting i 846 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:28,080 hadn't considered that 847 00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:29,440 it's 848 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,039 community and the sense that they're not 849 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:38,000 with you and and i i kind of get that 850 00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,320 you know i live down here in san diego 851 00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:42,080 california which everyone would think 852 00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:43,760 you know oh my god you're in california 853 00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,919 forget it no san diego's kind of fought 854 00:30:49,830 --> 00:30:46,960 back 855 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:49,840 and has kind of claimed their their spot 856 00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,200 i don't wear a mask you don't have to 857 00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:53,679 wear a mask anywhere the vaccine thing 858 00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:57,279 is just a complete non-issue down here 859 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:01,600 but i i my spirits are are lifted by the 860 00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:02,880 fact that 861 00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,600 i feel like the people that i i do see 862 00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:07,039 at least 863 00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,039 you know a good percentage of them are 864 00:31:12,789 --> 00:31:11,039 kind of clueing in and 865 00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,799 they're i get where you're where you're 866 00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:15,519 coming from if you feel like 867 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,640 you know your neighbors don't really 868 00:31:20,149 --> 00:31:19,200 have your back that'd be hard 869 00:31:22,710 --> 00:31:20,159 right 870 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,720 we could be days or weeks away from the 871 00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:24,559 federal government announcing you can't 872 00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,640 get on a plane or a train without a 873 00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:29,279 vaccine saskatchewan on september the 874 00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:30,799 13th 875 00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,480 just passed an emergency order where 876 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:34,720 they can enter any property without a 877 00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:35,679 warrant 878 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:38,159 i mean that's what's the next step is 879 00:31:42,149 --> 00:31:39,760 bursting into people's homes and 880 00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:42,159 vaccinating holding them down and 881 00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:43,840 vaccinating them 882 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:46,320 uh so you know it's it's very different 883 00:31:49,990 --> 00:31:47,600 up here 884 00:31:51,350 --> 00:31:50,000 um i may not be able to 885 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:51,360 to get out 886 00:31:54,549 --> 00:31:53,440 in a couple of weeks i mean 887 00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,559 the uh 888 00:31:58,870 --> 00:31:56,240 the border with the united states is 889 00:32:01,029 --> 00:31:58,880 closed for canadians traveling 890 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,039 uh by vehicle 891 00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:03,360 so you know we could be trapped 892 00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:05,760 um so again 893 00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:08,559 yeah i mean i i love the whole world of 894 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:11,440 ufology and et's and and and uh the 895 00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,559 paranormal and all of that it's just 896 00:32:22,230 --> 00:32:16,399 my 897 00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:22,240 just been consumed with this i feel 898 00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,399 almost like i'm you know i'm 899 00:32:27,590 --> 00:32:26,559 i'm fighting for my life my kids lives 900 00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:27,600 my 901 00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:30,159 it's um 902 00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,840 it's a heavy it's heavy it's a heavy 903 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,559 burden you know to be to be a parent 904 00:32:38,070 --> 00:32:36,720 right now and wondering when my kids go 905 00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:38,080 to high school 906 00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:39,679 uh we homeschooled them for about four 907 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:42,000 years but they wanted a high school 908 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:43,679 genuine high school experience so we 909 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,840 sent them to an all boys catholic school 910 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,039 and now 911 00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,120 they're sending mobile vaccine units to 912 00:32:54,070 --> 00:32:51,279 schools and 913 00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:54,080 minor minor children are told you do not 914 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:55,679 need parental consent to take the 915 00:32:59,350 --> 00:32:57,440 vaccine 916 00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:59,360 so you know every day when we send them 917 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:01,039 out the door it's like remember what we 918 00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,640 told you you know 919 00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:05,279 you you don't take the vaccine if they 920 00:33:09,990 --> 00:33:07,600 if they start hounding you about it you 921 00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,000 just you leave and you come home so 922 00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:12,799 that's our that's our reality right now 923 00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:15,360 wow i had no idea 924 00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,600 and and um 925 00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,519 not that it matters but 926 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,880 isn't that against the law for to 927 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,640 yeah you one would think we have a 928 00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,360 charter of rights and freedoms up here 929 00:33:31,750 --> 00:33:29,039 i think it's section seven that deals 930 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:31,760 with bodily autonomy which is the most 931 00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:32,720 basic 932 00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,840 of all 933 00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:35,120 human rights 934 00:33:40,789 --> 00:33:38,640 um except we have a proviso it's a 935 00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,799 section one in the charter i call it the 936 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,640 weenie clause 937 00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,720 and uh basically it means that all of 938 00:33:48,789 --> 00:33:46,559 these uh 939 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,799 rights and freedoms that you have 940 00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,960 can be limited there are reasonable 941 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,960 limits to those 942 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:54,000 um 943 00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,760 now you know we all remember oliver 944 00:33:58,789 --> 00:33:57,200 wendell holmes you know your right to 945 00:34:01,029 --> 00:33:58,799 swing your fist ends at the tip of my 946 00:34:02,389 --> 00:34:01,039 nose i get that but that's not 947 00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:02,399 what they're talking about especially 948 00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:04,880 when you place that power 949 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:07,440 in the hands of activist judges which we 950 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:09,599 have up here i mean we have had i mean 951 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,480 the liberal party here uh uh has been 952 00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:14,399 sort of the natural governing party for 953 00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:16,159 most of his country's history and we 954 00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:17,599 have very 955 00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:20,079 uh radical progressive 956 00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:21,839 activist judges on the bench that have 957 00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:23,839 been appointed by consecutive liberal 958 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:25,520 prime ministers and 959 00:34:29,909 --> 00:34:28,240 they have taken that that clause 960 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:29,919 or that section one 961 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:32,159 uh reasonable limits 962 00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,359 um 963 00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,879 to 964 00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,960 ensure things like you know social 965 00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,200 justice and equality without ever 966 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,520 defining those so they can suspend your 967 00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,520 civil rights in the name of social 968 00:34:47,510 --> 00:34:46,399 justice or equality or diversity and all 969 00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:47,520 of these 970 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,440 woke-isms that are not defined in law 971 00:34:55,270 --> 00:34:53,200 that's where we're at so we have a 972 00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:55,280 number of charter uh 973 00:35:00,069 --> 00:34:57,119 challenges before the courts right now 974 00:35:01,349 --> 00:35:00,079 on vaccine mandates we had hotel 975 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,359 quarantine 976 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:02,960 uh detention 977 00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:04,640 where if you were returning as canadian 978 00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,760 citizen returning from overseas 979 00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:10,240 and um you were 980 00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:12,400 upon your return you were 981 00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:13,760 forced into 982 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:19,040 quarantine in a hotel at your expense 983 00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:20,560 and uh 984 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:22,640 this is this has since been abandoned 985 00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:23,920 because they realized that people were 986 00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:25,839 actually catching covet in these hotels 987 00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:29,520 and there was an incident where a woman 988 00:35:32,470 --> 00:35:31,119 was sexually uh 989 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:32,480 attacked 990 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:35,280 uh while in a quarantine so that one 991 00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,400 that one went away because the 992 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,839 government made it go away but all of 993 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:39,599 these other charter challenges are being 994 00:35:43,990 --> 00:35:42,400 struck down we're losing in the courts 995 00:35:45,430 --> 00:35:44,000 we're losing our charter rights and 996 00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,440 freedoms the court says no this is 997 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,520 reasonable in in the case of a health 998 00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:50,400 emergency show me the emergency are they 999 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,800 stacking bodies like cord wood you know 1000 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,320 in temporary morgues like they did 1001 00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,640 during the sp you know the spanish 1002 00:36:02,870 --> 00:35:59,680 spanish flu i don't see it 1003 00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,880 richard what do you think is going on 1004 00:36:08,230 --> 00:36:05,440 on a global level you know if if you 1005 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:08,240 kind of take a step back 1006 00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:10,640 what do you think is in play here what 1007 00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,839 what is the game 1008 00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,680 well 1009 00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:18,400 i always come back to um was it rahm 1010 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:20,240 emanuel and others have said this you 1011 00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:21,920 know never let a good crisis go to waste 1012 00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,520 winston churchill i think said the same 1013 00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:25,680 thing and i not that covet isn't real 1014 00:36:29,670 --> 00:36:27,440 not that you know we need to mitigate 1015 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,680 risk and protect the vulnerable and all 1016 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,960 of that 1017 00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:33,520 um but when you have something like this 1018 00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,320 it presents an opportunity 1019 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,280 um you know what else can we sort of 1020 00:36:44,870 --> 00:36:41,680 piggyback on this crisis 1021 00:36:46,790 --> 00:36:44,880 in fact our own deputy prime minister 1022 00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:46,800 who was also was before 1023 00:36:49,990 --> 00:36:48,240 the last election in parliament was 1024 00:36:53,670 --> 00:36:50,000 dissolved she was deputy prime minister 1025 00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:53,680 and finance minister christian freeland 1026 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,400 and 1027 00:36:58,870 --> 00:36:57,520 a biographer of george soros by the way 1028 00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,880 and 1029 00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,720 again said something out loud that 1030 00:37:05,190 --> 00:37:02,240 should have been an inner you know 1031 00:37:07,190 --> 00:37:05,200 unexpressed thought she said covet has 1032 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:07,200 opened a window 1033 00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,280 for us and presents us with all of these 1034 00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,359 opportunities you know to do the things 1035 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:13,119 that we should you know that we want to 1036 00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:15,440 do in terms of this again this very 1037 00:37:21,750 --> 00:37:19,760 radical progressive collectivist agenda 1038 00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:21,760 um and now you hear them talking about 1039 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:23,760 how yeah but then that doesn't get us 1040 00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:25,760 all the way there we get the radical 1041 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,760 progressive we get the collectivist 1042 00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,240 there's something more i have a sense 1043 00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:33,839 that there's something more that there 1044 00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,800 is something evil uh 1045 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,640 behind this because 1046 00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:40,720 otherwise how you know 1047 00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:43,280 how do you really add it up to you know 1048 00:37:49,750 --> 00:37:47,280 destroy these economies to uh destroy 1049 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,760 the the mental health of just hundreds 1050 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,520 of thousands of people 1051 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,280 right at some point 1052 00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,880 yeah there has to be a spiritual element 1053 00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,119 you're right you're right 1054 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,310 i guess i'm 1055 00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:04,630 i guess in the in the fog of war in the 1056 00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:06,560 midst of battle when i'm you know 1057 00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:08,240 dealing with 1058 00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,240 uh the efficacy of masks and the latest 1059 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,640 study that comes out or the latest 1060 00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:15,359 peer-reviewed study on ivermectin or a 1061 00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:17,280 court challenge on 1062 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:20,160 uh vaccine passports or a woman who's 1063 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:22,880 pregnant and is getting fired because 1064 00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:25,920 she refuses the vaccine 1065 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,280 these little kind of the ground war 1066 00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:31,440 um i guess i just haven't had 1067 00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:32,400 an opportunity 1068 00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,400 to look at more of the 1069 00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:36,960 the spiritual warfare aspect of this but 1070 00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:39,359 i i i sense and i 1071 00:38:43,589 --> 00:38:41,760 i believe it's there for sure 1072 00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,599 because one of the shifts that i think 1073 00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:45,760 is happening right under our feet and 1074 00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,720 again it's this kind of big picture 1075 00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:51,599 alt media thing and you've covered it 1076 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:53,280 quite extensively in different ways on 1077 00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,480 your show 1078 00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:56,320 is the 1079 00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,400 push for 1080 00:39:02,710 --> 00:39:01,040 the satanic whether it's 1081 00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:02,720 you know 1082 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:06,000 sneakers from converse or nike with 1083 00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:07,920 blood in them and pentagram all that 1084 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:09,920 stuff that we've seen for a long time 1085 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,960 and it's this do what thou wilt netflix 1086 00:39:17,750 --> 00:39:14,720 kind of culture 1087 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:17,760 and then at the same time there's a rise 1088 00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:20,800 there is undoubtedly a rise in the 1089 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:23,200 general spirituality spiritual but not 1090 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,680 religious if we want to go that group as 1091 00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:27,599 a fast-growing group and some of the 1092 00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,040 stuff i've covered on my show with a 1093 00:39:32,710 --> 00:39:31,839 very positive near-death experience kind 1094 00:39:35,750 --> 00:39:32,720 of 1095 00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:35,760 love and light and you know expansive 1096 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,920 part of consciousness 1097 00:39:42,230 --> 00:39:40,160 but the atheists have kind of left the 1098 00:39:43,750 --> 00:39:42,240 left the scene and i always wonder 1099 00:39:45,670 --> 00:39:43,760 what's going on with that you know 1100 00:39:47,589 --> 00:39:45,680 remember 10 years ago that was the 1101 00:39:49,829 --> 00:39:47,599 battle you know it was the people who 1102 00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,839 were more spiritually engaged were 1103 00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,599 battling against these 1104 00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:54,160 scientists atheists and now they seem to 1105 00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:56,960 take an a different seat at the table 1106 00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,440 now it's just science 1107 00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:01,280 kind of more in the vein of what you're 1108 00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,720 talking about of kind of social 1109 00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,400 engineering we'll tell you what to do 1110 00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,560 shut up we're the experts kind of thing 1111 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:08,640 and at the same time the rise of the 1112 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:11,200 occult satanic which is completely out 1113 00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:13,760 of sync with that science vibe but 1114 00:40:17,670 --> 00:40:15,599 they've kind of packaged that in a way 1115 00:40:20,870 --> 00:40:17,680 and sold it and i know 1116 00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:20,880 you're in the fog of war but maybe i'll 1117 00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,400 give you a little bit of a respite here 1118 00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:24,800 richard maybe it'll be a relief to think 1119 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,720 about something else because i think you 1120 00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:29,760 you you have a sense about this that 1121 00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,680 maybe i have i haven't heard and i'm 1122 00:40:35,829 --> 00:40:33,920 wondering if anything pops to mind what 1123 00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:35,839 what is behind this 1124 00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:39,440 this thirst for control yeah i mean 1125 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:41,119 if you get down to the bedrock 1126 00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:43,760 ultimately it is it's spiritual warfare 1127 00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:46,880 we're dealing with here i mean 1128 00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,800 how else do you 1129 00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,040 explain the behavior of 1130 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,040 you know 1131 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,960 somebody who 1132 00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,599 who genuinely believes 1133 00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,040 uh 1134 00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:01,200 that that a person 1135 00:41:05,109 --> 00:41:02,800 a pregnant person 1136 00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:05,119 a pregnant woman rather a 1137 00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:07,040 a vulnerable person should be held down 1138 00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:09,359 and vaccinated against their will or 1139 00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:10,319 should be 1140 00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,839 there are people doctors now on on 1141 00:41:18,790 --> 00:41:17,280 social media saying that the 1142 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,800 unvaccinated 1143 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,440 should be uh 1144 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:23,680 excluded and should not have access to 1145 00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,280 health care and how else do you explain 1146 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:30,319 that then i think the spirit of 1147 00:41:35,589 --> 00:41:32,960 what's a very dark force 1148 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:35,599 that that has to be at play here for 1149 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:37,119 someone to actually think that about 1150 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,640 another human being 1151 00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:40,800 uh i mean we're getting in i know i know 1152 00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:43,520 people are very nervous about making the 1153 00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,400 the equation of or the um the um 1154 00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:49,359 comparison between nazi germany and the 1155 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:52,480 1930s and and what's happening now 1156 00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:55,200 uh because we can't diminish you know 1157 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,800 the holocaust we can't diminish 1158 00:42:02,790 --> 00:41:59,040 apartheid we can't diminish 1159 00:42:04,950 --> 00:42:02,800 uh slavery and all of these things but i 1160 00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,960 i i think the um 1161 00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:07,040 i think the signs are there i mean i've 1162 00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:08,000 talked to 1163 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,359 people who 1164 00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:11,040 survived the holocaust 1165 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:13,119 went to concentration camps they're in 1166 00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:13,920 their 1167 00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:16,319 80s and 90s 1168 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,640 and they're nervous they see the signs 1169 00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,480 and obviously there is a you know i 1170 00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:22,720 think the same forces at play in all of 1171 00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,200 these things whether we're talking about 1172 00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:26,720 genocide or 1173 00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:29,040 apartheid or 1174 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,960 uh slavery denying someone just basic 1175 00:42:37,109 --> 00:42:35,119 human dignity 1176 00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:37,119 and their human rights so yeah there has 1177 00:42:40,950 --> 00:42:38,480 to be 1178 00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:40,960 an element of spiritual warfare 1179 00:42:45,589 --> 00:42:42,720 i mean that that underpins everything 1180 00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:45,599 right for me absolutely 1181 00:42:49,750 --> 00:42:47,680 um 1182 00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:49,760 so i agreed and 1183 00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:51,680 you know how can it be otherwise right i 1184 00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,079 mean we like i always say 1185 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,760 what's left out of the equation so many 1186 00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,400 times in our culture is that we are all 1187 00:43:01,670 --> 00:43:00,400 we are all leading rich spiritual lives 1188 00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:01,680 that's a given 1189 00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:04,640 you're reading 1190 00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:06,640 that is the ultimate result of 1191 00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:08,079 understanding that you are not a 1192 00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:09,520 biological robot in a meaningless 1193 00:43:12,470 --> 00:43:10,800 universe is that you're this rich 1194 00:43:14,790 --> 00:43:12,480 spiritual being right we're not meat 1195 00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:14,800 robots that's right we're leading so 1196 00:43:20,150 --> 00:43:17,440 we're all in that game i wonder do you 1197 00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:20,160 have any thoughts specifically about 1198 00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:21,280 whether 1199 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:24,160 there has this been this huge swing of 1200 00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:26,480 the occult and the satanic in the do it 1201 00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,079 thou wilt culture the luciferian culture 1202 00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,560 is the timing of that 1203 00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:34,079 for you 1204 00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:36,000 in any way 1205 00:43:41,030 --> 00:43:39,599 connected related potentially 1206 00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,040 linked to 1207 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,280 what we're seeing here or is it just you 1208 00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:45,760 know i mean these things happen and they 1209 00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:48,160 don't always sync up for any 1210 00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:49,760 big picture reason but do you see 1211 00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,000 anything there or is that a stretch 1212 00:43:55,589 --> 00:43:54,560 no i don't think it's a stretch i i 1213 00:43:58,870 --> 00:43:55,599 think 1214 00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:58,880 we're getting down to near maybe the 1215 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:01,760 final chess moves 1216 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:04,000 i don't know how far we are to the end 1217 00:44:08,550 --> 00:44:06,160 of the game you know game over but 1218 00:44:10,710 --> 00:44:08,560 it feels to me like we're getting down 1219 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,720 to the final chess moves where 1220 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:12,400 these dark forces are having you know 1221 00:44:17,349 --> 00:44:15,280 everything seems to be going their way 1222 00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:17,359 um 1223 00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,800 control and enslavement 1224 00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:24,160 and 1225 00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:25,920 i don't know 1226 00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:27,520 if i'm ready yet to make the connection 1227 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,800 between the 1228 00:44:32,870 --> 00:44:30,800 i don't know enough about the mrna 1229 00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,880 vaccine to say that this is part of the 1230 00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:34,480 you know connects to the transhumanist 1231 00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,880 movement to make us less human to make 1232 00:44:40,630 --> 00:44:38,560 us less 1233 00:44:42,550 --> 00:44:40,640 spiritual uh 1234 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,560 i don't know 1235 00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,240 it could be how do you feel about that 1236 00:44:48,829 --> 00:44:47,040 do you think the mrna vaccine 1237 00:44:52,069 --> 00:44:48,839 is designed 1238 00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:52,079 to i don't know dehumanize 1239 00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:55,440 i think transhumanism gets too much play 1240 00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:57,440 in the sen in the same way that we're 1241 00:45:02,790 --> 00:44:59,920 talking about this 1242 00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,800 extended spirituality i think darkness 1243 00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:04,480 gets too much play 1244 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,560 it's all about the light 1245 00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,079 the light shines 1246 00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,800 so bright and so much brighter than any 1247 00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:12,160 of the darkness 1248 00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:14,160 that i think it's easy to get caught up 1249 00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,760 in the 1250 00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:18,000 ebbs and flows of the of the light and 1251 00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:19,599 the darkness but 1252 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:20,560 to me 1253 00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:21,760 um 1254 00:45:24,630 --> 00:45:23,359 no they they 1255 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,640 you know 1256 00:45:29,030 --> 00:45:26,400 i was reading somebody passed along a 1257 00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:29,040 quote from gandhi the other day 1258 00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:30,079 he said 1259 00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:34,079 good always win he says think of history 1260 00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:38,319 good always wins out you know and i 1261 00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:40,960 think the fact that we're here is 1262 00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:43,760 an affirmation of that so 1263 00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:46,400 yeah i don't i don't really uh 1264 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,760 in the same way that i don't think 1265 00:45:55,589 --> 00:45:52,560 their game is as tight as it looks in 1266 00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:55,599 terms of this uh biohack that they've 1267 00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,599 done and now it's kind of spreading a 1268 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,880 million different ways that they didn't 1269 00:46:02,950 --> 00:46:01,440 predict and it's creating a real 1270 00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,960 headache for their science because their 1271 00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:04,960 science absolutely makes no sense in 1272 00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,040 terms of booster in terms of 1273 00:46:11,910 --> 00:46:09,599 immunization for people who have uh or 1274 00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:11,920 natural immunization for people who've 1275 00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:12,640 had 1276 00:46:18,069 --> 00:46:15,599 all of that's crumbling at the same time 1277 00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,079 that i think there is an internal 1278 00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,359 strength in people that is 1279 00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:23,920 waking up so i don't know i take 1280 00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,200 maybe i'm 1281 00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:27,839 no i might be you know in the midst of 1282 00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:29,440 all this i do i have to be reminded 1283 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:30,720 you're right the good guys win that's 1284 00:46:35,910 --> 00:46:33,599 how the movie ends ultimately yes uh but 1285 00:46:38,069 --> 00:46:35,920 we have to we have to endure and you 1286 00:46:40,470 --> 00:46:38,079 know live through this uh 1287 00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,480 which you know it does it takes 1288 00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:42,960 a tremendous amount of uh 1289 00:46:47,430 --> 00:46:45,680 of faith and inner strength you know to 1290 00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:47,440 stand up to that but we do we have to 1291 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:48,800 you have to finish the race you have to 1292 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:49,839 fight 1293 00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,280 there was jordan peterson saying the 1294 00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:53,839 other day how actually 1295 00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:56,079 uh evil is not dark darkness is easy to 1296 00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:58,000 look into it's 1297 00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:00,000 the light is you can't stare at the 1298 00:47:02,550 --> 00:47:01,440 light 1299 00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,560 um 1300 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:04,000 because 1301 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:05,520 the problem with all you can do is step 1302 00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,480 into it 1303 00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,000 yeah but if you stare at the light if 1304 00:47:13,589 --> 00:47:10,720 you if you stare at evil then you are 1305 00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:13,599 you are compelled to 1306 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,119 to admit that it's real and to do 1307 00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:16,960 something about it that's why evil is 1308 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:21,349 so 1309 00:47:28,150 --> 00:47:24,480 here we are we're looking we're staring 1310 00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:28,160 you know at evil now what now we 1311 00:47:33,589 --> 00:47:31,440 we are compelled we have to fight 1312 00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,599 and this is where i am right now 1313 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,440 i have to fight 1314 00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,319 richard sarat that might be an 1315 00:47:42,549 --> 00:47:40,400 awesome awesome way 1316 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:42,559 to wrap this up this might not be quite 1317 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:44,240 the inspiration 1318 00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:47,200 to folks who are 1319 00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:48,640 who are not undergoing what you're going 1320 00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:51,359 because i have to admit i i just really 1321 00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:53,920 like all of us down here you know we 1322 00:47:57,910 --> 00:47:56,800 don't quite stay as focused on what's 1323 00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:57,920 going on 1324 00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:00,240 but it's a good eye-opener you know if 1325 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,839 it's a canary in the coal mine kind of 1326 00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:03,280 thing then 1327 00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,800 give it to me both barrels and you 1328 00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:06,240 certainly did it 1329 00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:08,960 what a battle you're going through so 1330 00:48:14,790 --> 00:48:11,839 i i hope people do stay in touch with 1331 00:48:16,950 --> 00:48:14,800 your excellent work now the the radio 1332 00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:16,960 show that you do that syndicated people 1333 00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:19,599 can listen to it through the website 1334 00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:22,400 uh yes it's uh the conspiracy show 1335 00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:25,359 sunday nights 11 p.m eastern 1336 00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,599 and you can uh if you're not in the 1337 00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,760 listening area and it's a huge listening 1338 00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:31,040 area 1339 00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:34,400 uh you can listen on am 740 all across 1340 00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:36,800 ontario parts of quebec manitoba maine 1341 00:48:40,950 --> 00:48:39,440 to minnesota south to the carolinas but 1342 00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,960 uh you know at night with a little help 1343 00:48:45,190 --> 00:48:42,880 from atmospheric skip you can pull it in 1344 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,200 on the radio if you're outside that huge 1345 00:48:51,750 --> 00:48:47,839 area you can stream it live at 1346 00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:53,910 and then of course there's a conspiracy 1347 00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,079 unlimited which 1348 00:49:00,309 --> 00:48:58,720 is free and if you want to and i 1349 00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:00,319 certainly do you know you can get the 1350 00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,440 premium 1351 00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:03,200 thing for just like two dollars a month 1352 00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,440 it's like the greatest value out there 1353 00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:07,920 some absolutely terrific shows there as 1354 00:49:12,910 --> 00:49:09,280 well and 1355 00:49:14,309 --> 00:49:12,920 that you can get everywhere but the 1356 00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:14,319 conspiracyunlimitedpodcast.com is the 1357 00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,599 place to go right got it and i'm not 1358 00:49:21,270 --> 00:49:19,599 sure when this is airing but i'll be 1359 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,280 doing coast to coast 1360 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:24,240 uh saturday september the 25th 1361 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:24,690 um 1362 00:49:28,069 --> 00:49:25,920 [Music] 1363 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,079 pacific that would be 10 p.m pacific or 1364 00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,400 uh 1 a.m sunday morning 1365 00:49:34,230 --> 00:49:32,640 sunday september the 26th 1366 00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:34,240 how do you feel when those dates are 1367 00:49:38,950 --> 00:49:35,839 coming up do you kind of 1368 00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,960 have mixed feelings of that 1am 1369 00:49:42,710 --> 00:49:40,319 thing 1370 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,720 i just i i i'm like a shark i guess i 1371 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:44,640 have to keep moving otherwise i'll sink 1372 00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:46,240 and drown 1373 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:48,720 i just keep moving 1374 00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:51,680 oh awesome well it's been terrific uh 1375 00:49:55,829 --> 00:49:54,160 having you on and and just love your 1376 00:49:56,549 --> 00:49:55,839 work and so respect what you're doing 1377 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,559 and 1378 00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,040 thank you for for joining me richard 1379 00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:02,160 my pleasure alex thank you for having me 1380 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,680 thanks again to richard sarah for 1381 00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:05,839 joining me today on skeptico 1382 00:50:10,710 --> 00:50:08,559 the obvious question from this one is 1383 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:10,720 is the chess game coming down to its 1384 00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:12,400 final moves 1385 00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,920 what do you think 1386 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:16,319 join me over on the skeptical form or 1387 00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:18,880 find me any way you will 1388 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:20,880 lots more to come stay with me for all 1389 00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:21,920 of that 1390 00:50:26,060 --> 00:50:24,319 until next time take care and bye for